I'd like to see a 26" wheel version -- I like the design of your uk hybrid bike, but would want full power. I currently ride a Europa.
leo

I love my A2B but I have had trouble finding accessories for it. Also, I have had the motor replaced twice since I purchased it in May. Will the new Hybrid have the same motor and the one that was replaced on my bike in July?

I wish you guys could make it lighter, at about half the weight, I live upstairs and it´s too heavy at my old age to lift it up

Leo,

Good news - no...how about GREAT news? We've heard from lots of customers like yourself looking for 26" wheels and we've listened. We have a Pedal-Assist and Throttle bike coming shortly.

Greg,

My understanding is that the soon to be released bikes will have all new motors on them. Sorry to hear about your Metro issues. As to accessories, we'll be introducing some new gear shortly. I can't share the details quite yet, but will do it when I can - both here and on Twitter @ultramotorusa so stay tuned.

Valeria,

We've got a bike coming out soon that's a bit lighter, but right now, there's no way for us to half the weight of the bike given our current technical and aesthetic design. The motor and battery are fairly hefty on their own and coupled with high-grade frame, well, you're going to arrive at something in the neighborhood of 60lbs or more. But I'll definitely pass it off to the guys in the lab coats. :-)

Been riding my A2B daily for about 6 weeks, Other than 2 flats in 2 weeks, no issues. I get a regular honk, thumbs up or a fake barfing teenager (sic) I understand it's a complement from my kid. So I guess I'm a cool 51 year old now. Bike works great so far. As far as the flats I bought a bottle of True Goo and haven't had an issue since. http://shop.truegoo.com/main.sc Thanks for the ride. Brian

I wanted to add that Chris, the West Coast Rep, is working with me on a solution and has been great so far. Feel really good that this will be resolved and behind me by the end of the month. Good to see that Ultra Motor has strong sales\customer support and stand behind their product.

Greg,
James the East coast rep cut the rear half of the rear fender clean off and that eliminated the cracking at the rear stay, plus it doesnt rattle anymore, and it still keeps wet tracks off my back; that's what the West coast guys are doing. Haven't used the new fender yet.

Your initial battery range was much better than mine, but it's too bad that its dropped off like that. I can get about 18-20 miles per charge, its just that now the speed drops off to 17 mph for the last 5 miles... its ok but i think its going to continue to get worse... Good thing it came with a 2 year warranty.

I also put a larger chainring on the crank, and went from 42t to 46t (not really worth it). I pumped in Slime to self seal the tubes, since i ride on coral trails along our canals and mangroves alot. Also installed Ergo grips, a big LED headlight, radio and built an Aluminum back rack to carry my fishing poles, bait and tackle box.. yeah i'm a gadget guy!

Joe, mind if I ask which headlight you are using? I was thinking about purchasing one for my bike.

Greg, I bought a 1 watt Planet bike blaze headlight and 1/2 watt Superflash taillight. Huge improvement and only like 50 bucks on ebay.

Hi can you tell me if the new bike is going to be an upgrade to the a2b bike.

Many thanks. Kevin

Kevin,

The new forthcoming products are not necessarily considered an upgrade, but rather, different. Stay tuned for more details. The A2B (Metro) will remain the flagship of our fleet, while the new products will be based upon their style and design.

Joe,

Batteries are in stock and ready to ship. If you would like to purchase one, please contact your local dealer.

Ultra Motor Support

im looking to get a car carrier for my bike. can you recommend one that fits on a hitch.

Jack,

We recommend a custom hitch rack built by Joe Hauler. There are other options as well in the motorcycle category. Most bicycle carries simply cannot handle the weight.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

Ultra Motor Support

I just had a lovely 7 mile walk with my A2B Bike! Bought it at Best Buy in Portland, Oregon and felt I was purchasing something techy & dependable. After 5 days I am learning the faults that the A2B Bike has and should be modified to deal with them.
The tires on the A2B are really really cheap! I was plugging along on a smooth surface when something penetrated the tire and the tube. Whatever it was the closeness of the fenders to the tires seemed to just drive it in; Well, it went flat. I felt I could deal with that until I seen how thin and mushy the tire actually was when it was deflated. So, the public bus transportation was just about only a half mile away so I went to it with my A2B thinking I would just pop it on the bus like all the other bike riders do when using it. Wrong!!! As I was attempting to place the bike in the rack the back tire went in fine as it was flat but when it came to placing the front tire in is when I learned the bike is 3 to 5 inches longer than what the rack will except and if it did fit, I would have had to let out half the air out of the tire so it would fit inside. At that moment the driver refused to let me load it. So what do you do when a taxi is far and in between? You walk!
This could be a fabulous bike! But will have to be modified to comply with general usage purposes or plan to be stranded. The cheesy cheap tires make it entirely undependable and to replace them is currently pretty much a non entity with out being with out transportation until they are shipped to you.
I plan to return my A2B as much as I would prefer to keep it but the dependability of it is a major issue with me and the handicaps of not being able to transport it on a public venue is just another negative and precursor to taking it back.
Damn I liked this bike but I don't see it fulfilling the need I have to have with it.

Sir Robin R Hixson :
Those Kenda tires are soft, but they handle well. Just carry a bottle of Green Slime and tire pump. I had a roofing nail stuck in the side of my rear tire, and I just poured in the Slime, pumped it up and I was on my way in 20 minutes.

Robin,

If you don't like the tire, there are other sizes that may appeal to you. May I suggest the Maxxis Creepy Crawler which is 20 x 2 or Cheng Shin 20x2.125. Thorn resistant tubes are also available for the above tires.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTazUiRfbow

What's the proper way to put in the slime mentioned on earler posts? Is that done prior to use to prevent flats? Wouldn't that ruin the wheel?

Any A2B owners / rider's clubs or meetup groups in San Francisco?

Does low temperatures affect in any way the performance? I plan to use one during the winter for a 2 mile commute. The bike will have to stay outside in the cold...

Lou, cold temperatures shouldn't effect the performance at all.

Is it normal to see small scuff marks around the motor housing? I am guessing how they got there and think maybe the chain makes contact slightly when in the biggest gear while motor is turning. They look like small graze marks circular and consistent with turning of the rear wheel.

Frank, did you ever get an answer on the slime? I would like to do that as well.

Maybe someone can post a how to Slime your A2B video on youtube?

SLIME: Just google "Slime tire sealant" and you'll get all sorts of consumer reviews and videos.
Some people preemptively add Slime and its probably a good idea.
It's available at Home Depot, Walmart etc.
My only suggestion is to use the recommended amount at first....you can always add more later.
Works well on my wheelbarrow, car, bike.

Any tips on how to reduce the noise when pedaling? The chain seems to clank against the top pin a bit.

Does your A2B rattle and vibrate a bit at the initial outset of throttling up? Is that normal and typical? I jsut started riding mine and have noticed a vibration at initial throttle up and then it smooths out but it does shake a bit at the first twist.

I noticed some motors have a serial that starts with a "UM09..." and ends with a separate etching of "M1." Anyone know what that stands for? Mine starts with a UM08... Do I have the older version of the motor? What's the difference?

Hello,

Our serial numbering system allows us to track a number of manufacturing differences on each production run.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Hello David,

This vibration you are experiencing is normal - as the motor breaks in over time, the audible noise should become less apparent.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

""David
Tue 20 Oct 2009 18:42

Any tips on how to reduce the noise when pedaling? The chain seems to clank against the top pin a bit.""

David,
the long chain has and upper and lower rubber idler pulleys. The noise you hear is the chain rubbing over the stay pin next to the upper idler pulley. If you just reverse the positions of the upper pulley and the stay pin, the chain noise will reduce significantly.

So you mean I simply swap them and put the pin with the idler pulley with the rubber ring on the top and then put the stay pin on the bottom?

David,
Yep just swap the pin with the upper idler pulley. And if you don't like it, just swap it back. Also, you should clean the chain and freewheel with a solvent then add lithium grease to the chain every hundred miles. Grit eats chains.

Just want to compare expereinces...I have been riding around San Francisco and there are a lot of pot holes. When I hit a bump I hear a loud slamming noise in the rear tail that I assume is the rear mudguard fender. Is the rear mud guard fender supposed to move and pivot independant of the rear suspension arm? The two black metal arms actually pivot if I lift the rear fender with my hand. Is that normal? Is it supposed to move and pivot a bit on its own? I noticed they are rivetted on and there's no bolt head that you can actually tighten. My rear fender can be physically moved up and down and I assume that is what makes the slamming noise when I hit bumps in the road. Can't see what it's slamming against though since I'm riding. Other than those instances of loud tail noise slams, I have a pretty smooth ride.

I am confused with how to adjust the rear suspension spring properly. If I twist the spring to be looser (more expanded) will that give me a stiffer ride or a more cushioned ride? Right now I have it twisted all the way in tight (compressed).

I see two small silver bolts that hold the two black metal rear fender arms to the trailing arm of the frame. Perhaps those came lose? I don't know what kind of wrench you need to tighten those two silver bolts. My bolts were either stripped or they came that way but they don't look like they were meant to be tightened with a standard wrench. Perhaps a Torx screwdriver or something else? Anyone know which tool to use to tighten those two small bolts holding the metal rear fender arms?

David, Just take a hacksaw (use a plate or wood so not to damage the tire) and cut off the rear half of the rear fender, and remove the arms from the frame. The fender will still work, and it won't rattle anymore.

Got a picture of how far you cut it?

What wrench do you use to get at that bolt that holds it?

I saw pictures from Eurobike of the A2B with a different fender and different fender support arms. Has tail lights and a license plate plaque too. The front has a speedometer and a light. Wonder is that's the 2010 models? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ultramotorusa/3905853044/in/set-72157622200669019/

David,
I cut my fender 11 1/2", measuring from the front attachment point of the fender. I tossed (or lost) the attachment screws, but I believe it was a socket headed capscrew and needs a 3/16" or 5 mm allen wrench. If you don't already own it, buy a combo SAE/Metric allen wrench set... like 20 bucks. All those bolts should be tightened regularly.
Now that I think about it I did strip those silver screws when I was removing them.. maybe because I used SAE when I should have used a metric wrench.. I think vice grips were used to remove them.
Also it may be easier if you deflate the tire first.

What's the proper way to put in the slime mentioned on earler posts? Is that done prior to use to prevent flats? Wouldn't that ruin the wheel?

I used True-Goo on my tires, deflated, added to tube & reinflate. have had no flat problems since (4 months).http://shop.truegoo.com/main.sc

They are tightened with 3mm Allen wrenches. I have to tighten them after every other ride. I think I might put a dab of super glue to keep the screws fixed.

I read that other batteries perform better if you let them cooldown after charging. I tried that on my A2B batteries, where I charged them for 4 or 12 hours, then turned off and unplugged the charger, and let it sit for an hour. There seems to be better pickup and range... Or is this just wishful thinking?

Curious, what helmets and gloves are you all using with your A2Bs? It's really not a bicycle so maybe a scooter helmet would be better?

I was considering some kind of scooter helmet wth a clear open face shield. Any suggestions?

Also Gel Padded gloves of some sort...

What do you have to do to the rear shock spring if you add a secondary battery pack? I heard you have to set it up a certain way so it won't bottom out.

Fred,

When you purchase a secondary battery, we include a small elastomer to install inside the shock for heavier riders. As you mentioned, this helps reduce the possibility of the fender bottoming out.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Ultra Motor Support

I love the A2B bike.I pedal when I want for exercise,but like that feeling of having assistance when I need it.But,I have only had it about 3 months, and have had 2 defective parts replaced already.Which is discouraging,this is not a cheap bike.We go to Fla. for part of the winter and I'am worried if I have problems there ,What will I do,from my home I have to drive about 180 miles to get it worked on.In Fla. I have no idea,I sure hate to take it all the way down there and then something go wrong.

Which parts did you have replaced? Just curious.

Perhaps you can have them send you the parts where ever you are? There are good videos here for most important things you'd need to tinker with:

http://www.youtube.com/user/UltraMotorUSA

Carolyn
Mon 30 Nov 2009 19:55

The East coast customer rep is out of Ft. Lauderdale and he's real good about resolving problems.

You can contact him from this website.

Anyone time the accelertion of the A2B? 0-20mph in how many seconds from engagemnt of throttle?

I ran over a big nail today, and both the rear tube and tire are pretty trashed. However, I can't seem to find my A2B owner's manual, and so I am a little perplexed about how to remove the rear wheel. Specifically, how do I detach the wires that go into the center of the axle?

Hello,

Please refer to the following video for assistance with removing your rear wheel: http://www.youtube.com/user/UltraMotorUSA#p/a/u/0/htJOK0Gu8sk

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/clips/a2b-electric-bicycle/1179149/

The tire is 20x3, not 26x3. Here's one website that stocks it and all A2B replacement parts

http://www.motostrano.com/ulmoa2bketi.html

Anyone hack their A2B to go faster than 20 mph?: )

I just rode my A2B through a rain storm. I assume all that rain won't damage anything cause it's all sealed right?

Logan,

The A2B Metro is considered to be water resistant. Therefore, riding in the rain should pose no possibility of damage. However, it is always recommended to wipe the bike down after use in the rain to help preserve the bicycle components that are predisposed to corrosion.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Funny, I just got hassled by a policeman on a motorcycle who saw me riding on a bike trail near Goledn Gate Park in San Francisco. I think the confusion was mainly due to the fact that I wear a scooter helmet with clear face shield when riding my A2B. It's wind going downhill here. =)

The cop saw me from a distance and yelled at me to get off the bike probably thiking I was riding a motorcycle on a bike trail. I started doing an exaggerated pedal motion to show it's a bicycle. Haha!

He did a couple double takes and sped away. I was wondering if there is any printable form that UltraMotor can make into a PDF that's available for download which shows the law and that these are legally bicycles. I imagine if I run into a similar situation again, I can keep it handy in my wallet and whip out a form to show any law enforcement officer who might want to stop me and misake this for a motorcycle.

Admittdly I probably wouldn't get hassled if I wore a regular bicycle helmet. =)

Check this out for more information on e-bike regulations:

http://www.iloveebikes.com/Distributorfiles/FEDregulation.pdf

Richard,

Perfect! I've printed one out and am keeping it in my wallet. =)

More info for California riders:

http://cyclesantamonica.blogspot.com/2006/11/electric-bicycle-laws.html

Be careful. Federal law is superseded by state and local laws. For example electric bikes are banned in New York. For a good general overview of each state's requirements check this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws#United_States

Joe,

I ride in San Francisco, California where Ultra Motor USA is headquartered. That should mean I'm OK right? =) I assume I can ride the A2B anywhere a regular bike can go here.

I noticed the click click click sound of the rer wheel turning is somehow louder now that I rode this through a rainstorm.

Do I need to lube it somewhere?

Anyone else notice a somewhat violent vibration/shaking when applying the front brakes? Is that normal? If not what do I need to do to get rid of that?

BTW, I don't need to drive much anymore and LOVE this bike so much I purposely take teh long way home for fun!

Could it be the bearings?

My front forks are shuddering violently too when braking front brakes. Does this mean the steering headset is coming loose? How do you tighten? I see a yellow sticker warning not to mess with the top bolt. But is that the one to tighten? I'm a bike novice so any tips on safely tightening the A2B headset and steering is appreciated!

The front and rear disc brakes have to be adjusted. Unlike a hydraulic system the brake cables on your bike do not automatically adjust the pad against the disc.
The brakes are Avid model BB5. You can Google this for adjustment instructions. It's pretty simple.

I took a spill and broke my wrist. Have metal and screws put in to stabilize the fracture. My front wheel ended up perpeindicular to the handle bars and chain was derailed. I remember looking back for a lane change to avoid a double parked car blocking the bike lane. Next thing I know I'm loosing control and flying over the handlebars. Luckily my motorcycle helmet took the pavement scraping on the faceshield. Looks like no more riding for me. What to do with a dropped, almost new A2B bike? Worth fixing or just part out stuff like the battery? Can the frame still be trusted after a 8 - 10 mph crash? Bummer!

Any pictures of 2010 A2B Metro's?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIh3Z8SdOsA

These look like these have rear fender, headlight, side reflector, grips, and speedometer/dashboard that differs from current models seen in USA. I assume these are the 2010 models since this was filmed at a late 2009 Eurobike show.

Anyone upgrade their A2B's.
Any suggestions on which improved/better brakes, derailieur, chain rings, seats, shifters, air shocks, mirrors, grips, etc. other than standard parts you guys added and used? Just curious what was done to improve and soup up you rides? Brand and model numbers?

I installed a larger chainring 46t but it wasn't worth it, maybe a 1 mph improvement. Installed 90mm Ergo handgrips which are great and reduce fatigue. Installed a planet bike 1 w LED headlight and 1/2 w tailight.

Ergo grips are a good idea. I notice thumb pain from using throttle over an hour. I also have a 1/2 watt planet bike stealth blinky but it fell off the bike on a bump. Anoyne use air shocks or better seats? Thinking of getting a Winkuu mirror indicator set but it does stick out pretty far on both sides. I'm riding with a motorcycle helmet too. I have a cheap bike computer and a bell. :) Thinking of upgrading to hydraulic brakes like Avid Code 5s. Anyone notice BB5s need a lot of adjusting all the time?

I agree the rear fender is a bit problematic. The two silver allen head cap screws that hold the fender arms need to be tightened, otherwise they make a loud noise going over bumps. Some have simply sawed off half of the fender.

The chain sits a bit loose and makes a loud noise when pedaling as it rubs against the top retaining pin. Some have suggested swapping position of retaining pin and pulley wheel.

the tabs on my fender that hold it on always break, so what i did was made some little metal brackets and used mini nylon nuts and bolts. and on all the other small screws holding the fender on i replaced them with higher quality and used a little lock tight and that seemed to fix the problem, it doesnt make any more noise and doesnt rattle. and up until i put the new battery on and hit it, it was perfect. i plan on doing the same thing to my new fender that just showed up today.

i might have to try switching the pin and pully, that sounds like it might work pretty good. i found that as long as you keep your chain well lubricated the chain will make less noise against the pin also.

Check out the different fender arms on the European A2Bs. Looks like they would be more secure

Here's a link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ultramotorusa/3905853044/in/set-72157622200669019/

Does anyone know what the capacity of the stock battery is in Ahrs?

Thanks

For the Metro?

Eric,

The A2B Metro battery is rated at 11.5 amp hours.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

If I were to upgrade breaks, derailieur, chain ring, and rear shock which one would be better than the stock parts? Any recommendations? I find the chain is always a bit lose and dangly and slips on occassion.

Can any authorized dealer provide in-warranty service or do you have to go back to the original dealer? What if you move out of state?

Can you legally ride this on sidewalks in San Francisco? My son is afraid to ride in the streets with traffic so he bikes on sidewalks.

Spencer,

Each warranty claim is handled on a case by case basis. Please feel free to contact Ultra Motor or your dealer directly for details.

Ultra Motor Support

Barbara,

Legally, you are not permitted to ride any type of bicycle on the sidewalks. I encourage you to check your local laws for details.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

I replaced the brake pads after 2000 miles, by googling the instructions for these Avid BB5 disc brakes, and found the pads on Ebay - pretty easy.

Unfortunately the rear brake squealed badly with the new pads. Another google search revealed that the discs need to be cleaned with mild soap and scrubbed. I used 320 grit waterproof emory cloth and liquid detergent/water - Worked great - squeal is gone!

Hi All, my bike was stolen in December. I was initially told that it was covered by Allstate, my insurance company within my homeowner's policy because it was a 'bicycle'. When I filed a claim however it was designated a 'motorized land vehicle' and therefore NOT covered under insurance. I've spent the last 2 months being given the runaround and ultimately they've denied my claim. Wanted to give a heads up.

Very sorry to hear that. I guess a special rider is needed in the HO policy.

Can you tell me if the bike was locked up, what type of lock and chain or cable was it?

Regards

I have yet to lock the bike anywhere. I am paranoid that it'll be stolen or parts taken by crooks. I've only been riding to and from home and work and park it indoors by my desk, recharging while working. I think at the very least, get a bike cover to hide the fact that it's a different bike to deter thieves?

hello did you find out what the vibration is coming from I have the same problem,
Thanks

Got stuck with my a2b on the way to work today it was making this clinking sound and pedaling was not possible seems like it was stuck even with the battery off very strange ,can anybody tell me what can it be?

Guy,

Please bring your A2B to your dealer of purchase to review the symptoms. Otherwise, please feel free to call us directly if you would like to discuss more at length.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support
415.693.3110

Thank you ,tried calling but no answer .
Wanted to know if it's the engin or maybe
just water ?
Did anybody had the same simptoms ?
Clincing sound from the engin got louder and louder had to stop turn the engin off and started pedaling.pedaling became
really hard and then the battery light went off...

Billy,

I also had violent shaking on front braking but never figured out if it was the brake rotor or something with the stem of the from fork. Check the headset and the stem screw and make sure they are tight. I had an accident where the front wheel twisted out of alignment and this violent vibration was the sympton shortly before that happened so not sure.

Spence,

The calibration and adjustment of the front brake is crucial to lessening the vibration you are experiencing. Check and double check the pad placement, and experiment with the adjustment there. Often times, if the pad is slightly mis-aligned, it will then contact the rotor in such a way that creates vibration throughout the front fork.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Guy,

Technical Support can be reached at the following numbers:

415-693-3110

If you receive voicemail, then we are on the other line. Please leave a message and we will return your call as quickly as possible.

We would be happy to help resolve the issues you are experiencing with your A2B. I'm sure we can find a solution to the symptoms you described.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Thanks for the info, I called Avid the makers of the brakes, was told that the pads have to seat to the Rotors, I was told to speed up on the bike and then sloe down to walking speed do it 20 times and that will take care of the problem.
Also the rep @ Avid told me to take the bike to best buy and have the service tech call them and they will send me new pads and rotors Free of charge. I tought that was cool of Avid to do that, Thank you for the info .
Billy

When will the 2011 models will featuring an improved rear fender mounting design be available?

I want to get the bike with this change implemented.

2011 Models will be unveiled at Interbike in September of 2010, and available at dealers some time thereafter.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Is it possible for the 2011 changes to be retro-fitted to the 2010 models if necessary. Any major changes for 2011?

Would appreciate instructions as to how to adjust headset. After approx. 100 miles commuting, I've noticed that the headset is no longer square to the front wheel. Thanks.

Neil
Wash, DC

Neil,

There are many resources on the internet regarding proper bicycle headset adjustment. Here's a great one we've recommended in the past:

http://bicycletutor.com/adjust-threadless-headset/

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Well I've crossed 3000 miles on my nice black A2B Metro. Still shines like new. After all my problems in the first 2000 miles, the last 1000 miles have been pretty much event free.

My only problem is that using the front brakes makes a horrible noise initially then causes the forks to yield. Do I need new rotors?

I can't find Aramaid strips (goes between the tube and the tire) for these 20"x3" tires. This would eliminate the flats. Any ideas?

I figured out an easy way to increase the 40 mile range from the 2 batteries. I alternate between running the motor for 1/10 mile then pedal only for a 1/10 mile. On flat roads there's enough momentum that pedalling is fairly easy and bike speed stays above 15 mph. Also at low speeds or from a dead stop just pedal only. My range increased 50%.

I upgraded the chainring from 42t to 46t, but it's not enough.

I've had my Metro for 4 months. It's a fun bike. I have a lot of bikes, including another e-bike and I usually ride the A2B.

I've made a few modifications, one by necessity. The necessary one was a new derailleur. The original one broke (Ultramotor took care of it) and I replaced it with a Performance brand Forte derailleur. It looks sharp in flat black and performs well. It was also inexpensive.

The pedals were gone right away. I replaced them with pedals and toe clips that I already had lying around. I often use cleats but on this type of bike, I don't think they make sense.

I changed out the seat to a Specialized unit that I've owned for some years and know to be comfortable. I found the OEM seat, with its squarish front, to be uncomfortable when pedaling.

The chain sound on the roller pins was annoying so I removed both pins--noise gone. Also, I did not like the angle of the chain in high gear, which I use most of the time; that severe angle was bound to cause undue wear to the chain and gears. I simply removed the idler pulley and solved the problem. Of course, the long chain hangs down lower now and consequently, the kickstand must be removed, but I think that trade-off is worth it.

Like some others have done, I changed the chainring to one with 46 teeth. It's aluminum and pricey (the original chainring is made of steel), but it looks sharp and was imo a worthwhile upgrade. It gives approximately a 10% higher gear. Now the rpm while pedaling in high gear at top speed is more reasonable.

As for the fenders, I put Loctite on the bolts in the rear to secure them. (I forgot to check to see if there are bolts on the front fender) but there are still rattles over bumps. That's generally the case with fenders on bikes I've owned, however. Rattles may be coming from other components as well, but it doesn't bother me much.

Now that my A2B is dialed in, I like it more than ever.

Anyone noticing their headset twists out of alignment after some rides? The wheel and handlebar aren't aligned, does that mean I need to tighten the big side bolt on the headset? Leave the small top one under the yellow sticker alone right?

Mine is still aligned but I plan to check and tighten both bolts, if necessary, before my next ride (this afternoon).

Some of the comments/complaints by others are rather comical, well from the view of a long time off-road motorcycle rider. Its a bike, put the tires on it you like and set the suspension for your weight..lol. I got the a2b as a present from my wife, and while skeptical at first...this lil sucker makes a great train commuter here is S. Florida.

Couple questions for Ultra Motor.

1. Do you have a service manual for this thing. If so how do I buy one? No one works on my dirt bikes but me... service techs are the worst.

2. What is the recommended sag setting?

3. Who makes the front forks? What are the specs/settings with the clickers...you know like a dirt bike.

4. Who is the mfg for the motor...specs?

Finger,
Good attitude, and it is just a front shock rear swing arm 7 speed bike w/disc brakes. However, you will not be adjusting or repairing the battery, the relays or the motor w/BMS. When those act up or fail and you want a warranty repair the dealer or dealer rep is the only option. They've stood behind their product pretty well, so far.

Got ya Joe ...... kinda make sense that a bicycle does not have a service manual.

I was kinda surprised to find no oil or valves in the front shock, I was going to adjust the rebound...but there's only a spring in there...but its a bicycle....not a dirt bike...my wife ridiculed me on that one.

The lil sucker will bunny hop on the rear tire going around sharp corners at speed...I'm looking for a gas shock for the rear, with a little rebound control....but I probably should not be doing that :)

Nice product for what it is ..... no more pedaling after I get off the train to get to my Miami office. Oh, my dirt bike carrier holds the sucker fine to get it to the train station, not sure if a regular bicycle carrier could handle the weight.

Oh, the only thing about the bike I did not like was the rear fender....I fabricated on out of alum....yours rattled like hell.

Yes, the bike will hop on corners. Kind of scary. I wouldn't think it would do that; I thought the suspension would help the handling but maybe it hurts it.

The fenders are annoying. I don't know if I could fabricate my own though.

Actually its not that bad, just fun, a hard tail would be worse and a gas shock is overkill....I'm gonna leave it as is.

Just remember if the back end slides...turn into the slide...or don't drive at speeds around corners where that may happen. Just sayin....I'm used to going 50+ mph through the woods in sugar sand so a 20 mph skoot....is well safe and not scary.

btw....the front brakes are damn good....I had the lil a2b in a full "stoppie" for ten feet or sot after a bus pulled in front of me in Miami skooting around a corner on the sidewalk. Not bad Ultra....not bad at all.

i've owned my A2B for 5 months. overall it's a great bike. very utilitarian with a real world urban range (unassisted) of 30-35 miles. my only complaint is with the choice of tires. the tires are anything but thorn resistance. i have had four flats. the tires are weak and tubes are hard to find from an ordinary bike shop (you can't always be close to an A2B dealership) once i had to buy a regular 20" bike tire just to get down the road. also the handling characteristics of the standard tires are awful. i have since replaced the standard tires with moped tires, stronger with much better handling and only a slight reduction in ride quality.

George.....what moped tire did you find that you liked and fit...I could not find nuthin but 20" bmx tires.

Please post up!!!.....the stock kenda's are definately flat prone.

finger..the tires are shinko 714 2.25 x 16 moped tires. yes i know the A2B has a 20" rim but these tires fit nicely and they look good.. my dealership, action wheelsport in st. petersburg florida, also sells scooters and mopeds in addition to bicycles and it was his suggestion. he has fitted these tires on other A2B's as well.

Hmmm, so your dealer laced up 16" rims on your a2b, interesting....whats your gps top speed now?

If I'm not understanding you correctly please email me at burns.owen@gmail.com :)

I was thinking of a 21" rim....and just modding the fenders to let them fit....you know a little higher top speed and use standard motor cycle front tires.....but I was concerned the motor could not turn them well.

Right now I just Slimed my stock tires.....waiting on opines from others.

according to my dealer, action wheel sport in st. petersburg fl., moped, scooter and motorcycle tire are measured differently from bicycle tire. like auto tires the size is determined from the inside diameter. bicycle tire sizes, on the other hand, are determined from the entire diameter of the tire. the inside diameter of a 20" bicycle tire is actually 16". so my moped tires fit perfectly on any a2b. all you have to do is go to a place that sells mopeds or scooters and get your tires.

George,

As soon as I read your post I jumped out of my office, tape measure in hand....and sure enough its a 16" rim, I know how to measure motorcycle stuff, I had no idea bicycle tires were measured differently. Oh course its obvious to me now, my dirt bikes have 18" and 21" tires and they are way bigger...I must have been having an elderly moment.

A quick online search yielded numerous tire options for a 16" rim.

Oh that 2.25 shinko is a nice looking tire, did it slow the a2b down any with the extra weight and second question .... even thou the stock kenda is 3.0.... Is the shinko 2.25 wider or skinner or about the same as the stock kenda.

btw...Great Post!!!

it is skinnier, speed is the same. the only advantage i ever noticed with the kenda 3.0 is it is somewhat better when riding on turf or on a sandy surface. these advantage's are of little use though when the tire itself is unreliable.

i have been looking for two things, a front basket and a horn. because the A2B i somewhat overbuilt, standard aftermarket accessories i find just don't seem to fit. i have looked in many of our local bike shops but to no avail. does anyone have a suggestion? one that doesn't require fabrication or modification.

Hi will the A2B Excel - 800W hub motor fit on the metro bike :-)

did you sell it or part it out im real intrested in pparts i have 2 a2b bikes
thanks
jake

When will the new A2Bs with improved fenders available? Are they available now?

I see videos online of A2Bs that have the new better fenders. They have double arms. They probably were inproved so they don't rattle around. Looking to get a new A2B soon

Doug,

The fender design will be changing for 2011. The robust design will eliminate much of the excess rattle and noise that occurs after many miles of riding.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

What is the metro tire circumference in mm? Need to adjust my speedo. Thx

Will the 2011 version of the Metro with new fender arm design be available in 2010? Like cars, 2011 model year is sold in late 2010. If so, which month will thse bikes be available? Eager to get one.

Doug,

Availability of 2011 models varies depending on individual dealer stock. As a whole, our 2011 models will start hitting the stores in the late fall.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Last Friday I took the A2B to a retirement party for a past manager. Running from the B battery I got a full 20 miles of range with very little pedaling. This week I will be installing the Edge® 305, GPS Bike computer (A Garmin Product) and will be able to track more than the simple things I do now. Would have like to have access to the state of charge and other items from the bikes on board electronic You might want to consider some like that for an accessory.

lol.....+1 :)

Well Ultra?

Major modification would be required - both use two entirely different battery and controller systems.

Ultra Motor Support

I purchased my A2B Metro 2 weeks ago. I've been considering an EBike for about a year, after riding the the A2B I was sold. I'm 60 years old and been riding bicycles for most of my life and motorcycles when I was a kid. The A2B is more like riding a motorcycle than a bicycle and that's why its so much fun. I prefer the combination of pedal and throttle to the pedal assist of electric bicycles. If you compare the price of the A2B Metro to top of the line Mountain and Road bicycles and motor scooters the Metro's a real deal.

UltraMotor has to continue addressing owners concerns, like the rear fender rattle and tires. How about giving the owners of 2008-2010 Metros the new rear fenders free or at a discount price?

I commute 4 miles to work daily in Northern California's fog belt. I also use the bike for errands around town. I ride on mixed terrain, flat, and hills with a short stretch of dirt track. I pedal almost all the time with the throttle wide open. The motor has cut out twice while descending a hill. I contacted UltraMotor and they said I have a defective motor which they will replace.

I've replaced the seat with a Serfas E-Gel Cruiser Saddle - works great. I've also added Planet Bike Blaze Superflash Bike Light Set and a bicycle bell. I installed the UltraMotor base rack, standard bicycle panniers fit well on the rack.

I don't like the stock derailer it dosen't select gears well, misshfts when I shift up. I plan on replacing it, the suggestion of using a Performance brand Forte derailleur was great. Also the info on addressing the annoying chain noise was good. Not sold yet on upgrading the chain ring.

I find the blog info very helpful. I especially liked the comments from the dirt bike rider in Florida, spot on Mate! The info on replacement tires was also helpful. I think the Metro has more in common with motorcycles and motor scooters than bicycles and look forward to hearing more from motorcycle riders with A2B Metros. Shops that market the A2B along with motor scooters should be especially helpful for upgrades, tires, etc.

My guess is it won't be long before some A2B geeks get into hacking (hot rodding) the motors and we start seeing these going over 50 mph and doing wheelies. Anyone know about such happenings?

Don't be surprised if the authorities start trying to require license, registration, etc. as 2 wheeled LEVs proliferate. We need to organize in preparation for this.

Keep the solid info coming folks. I plan on relying on the A2B Metro for all of my driving under 17 miles for many years to come. Never thought being GREEN could be so much fun.

How major?

I just put a 350cc piston in a 250 klx after porting the head and using a new cam, never mind the exhaust and jetting mods. And I only ride that sucker in senior enduros......I'm ok with a few mods. ;)

Back to the Metro...it appears the 800w motor requires 48v vs the existing 36v......will 48v of batteries fit in the Metro?

Warranty is not a issue for me....this is a toy to be had fun with.

Btw....if this thing would go 40 mph with a 10 mile range...that would be perfect for me.

Hey Mike Turek,

Please come on over to advrider.com ..... you still got time to get back on two wheels. :)

At least check out the riding reports from all over the world .... we luv our bikes and I still see you on a say ktm 640 Adventure......60 is young...you can still do it!!!!!!!!

10% Tax Rebate: Consumers can deduct 10% of the cost of a Plug In Electric motorcycle or scooter from their tax liability. Vehicles must have a minimum of 2.5kWH of battery energy. Valid: 1/1/2009 - 12/31/2011

Does the A2B Metro qualify for this Federal Tax Rebate?

Mike,

We wish it did. Seems crazy, but our vehicle draws even less energy than 2.5kWH, which means we do not qualify! Doesn't seem fair to punish those of us who are pulling less energy from the grid.

We are working with lobbyists to include lower-power vehicles on future tax credits.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Is this true for USA models? If so when will it be available?

"The 2011 edition of the A2B Metro should be available soon and Ultramotor plans to add dual projector LED headlights and a speedo to the package. "

Neil,

As the folks on Capitol Hill often say, "We can neither confirm nor deny these allegations. " :-)

In all seriousness, you can expect to see many new upgrades on the 2011 models, one of which will likely include an integrated lighting system. With Interbike around the corner, we are scrambling to put the finishing touches on our 2011 lineup. Please stay tuned for more.

Ultra Motor Support

I'm kinda surprised there hasn't been more discussion about add-on's such as headlamps, tail lamps, turn-indicators, etc. For example, there are many bicycle lighting options but almost all of them run on batteries of one kind or another. But hey, I've already got a better battery than any of them. Why would I want the hassle of charging yet another set (or two) of batteries? Can I run these lights off my bike battery? I presume there are some loading and rating issues to be considered but I'm not a EE and don't know how to proceed. If I want to attach some LED lighting and run the lights off the battery do I need to be concerned about matching the lights to the battery? Or, being LED's will they just take whatever power is sourced and light accordingly? Will they burn out or burn up? How might these lights be modified to run off the bike battery? And how do I take leads off of the battery and what kind of wire should I use? How might running such lights diminish the battery capacity?

Sorry, as I said, I'm kinda ignorant about electrical stuff and I'm learning as I go. Any help is appreciated. TIA.

Phred,

We don't recommend any modification to our battery. It is safest to use LED's with separate batteries so as not to cause any damage to the electrical system.

Best regards,

Ultra Motor Support

Bougth My A2B in April this year have put just over 3,800 hundred miles on it with no real problmes did cut rear fender in 1/2 made a big diffrance in noise. I have tothank my local Reps at Larson's Ski & Sport John Ryan & Paul have been great to work with. Blew 1 tire out at about 3,200 think preassure got a little low. Would like to thank Larson's & Ultra moters for making my summer wonderful Larson's did come up with a Hydrilic rear brake that I do love & keeps me from having to ajust brakes all the time
Keep it up & looking for more improvements in the future

Bill

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